User talk:Maxforce99

UCX implementation
Hi! I’m Héctor, one of the Fandom Community Managers. I’m here to talk with you about the upcoming changes we will experiment on the wikis when the new UCX will be released. As a result, we’ll have to adapt the current content - mainly the design and implemented code - to ensure they’re compatible and operational.

Specifically talking, the UCX will mainly affect the Frontpage, the design (logo, background, favicon, themes), the CSS/JS used and some templates that should adapt their look to it. While the wiki will still be migrated some weeks later, I’m here to work alongside you to anticipate all the work regarding review, improvements and adaptation to the new skin.

If you agree, I’ll start soon, reviewing the mentioned elements and describing to you what work should be done. For the case of the design, I can work with the future version, that will be working once the wiki will be migrated. Regarding the frontpage, templates and the code, I can work and implement the changes now, to have them properly working both in the present and the future, but having all the changes done in advance.

Let me know if you have any comments about it and we can explore together the upcoming changes. Thanks! --CuBaN VeRcEttI (Contact) 18:32, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello Héctor, I wasn't aware that favicon would be effected by the UCX change as I thought it would be mostly the front page and general GUI / editor interface that would be effected. I would love to know which elements in CSS/JS and templates would need to be changed.


 * Thank you Maxforce99 (talk) 18:18, 11 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi! Sorry for the delay in my reply. All the assets have to be re-upload using the new Theme Designer, but you basically have to re-upload them only. Regarding the code, all the elements included in the Hydra.css / Hydradark.css won't we working in the UCX (because it's a different skin) and have to be moved to the new page fandomdesktop.css. In addition, with the new feature of the 2 themes option you have to adapt all the code affecting colors to have the content compatible with both at the same time.


 * If you agree, I can directly adapt the wiki during these days, before you'll be able to explore the test version and some time before the final migration. The current status of the wiki won't be affected, because the changes will be done only for the new skin. --CuBaN VeRcEttI (Contact) 14:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, ok so the assets will need re-upload, this part I get. As for the codes, will MediaWiki:Common.css change? and MediaWiki:Hydra.css will have to be moved/altered to work? (I don't think Hydradark.css is currently used on this wiki, however I'm considering having a dark version) I'm not sure I understand "In addition, with the new feature of the 2 themes option you have to adapt all the code affecting colors to have the content compatible with both at the same time." so 2 different themes? is one light other dark? separate code pages?


 * I think it would make more sense to me once a test version is up and running and I can see whats going on. Thank you Maxforce99 (talk) 14:47, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Common.css will work as usual, because the code there affects all skins. All the code inside Hydra.css would have to be moved (either to common.css and/or fandomdesktop.css) because it only works with the current skin but not with the UCX. And, on the contrary, the code inside fandomdesktop.css will affect only the UCX. Regarding the themes, UCX allows users to see the page with the light or dark theme (you can take a look to the blog post to know more info). That's why we have to work and make the current content compatible with the future dark theme. You don't need two different code pages, but you basically have two options for this: using different classes for each theme, or basing the color options in CSS variables instead of concrete colors. This second option is what I've been currently doing on the rest of wikis I helped. --CuBaN VeRcEttI (Contact) 14:56, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Ohh, ok think it would be better to just move the hydra.css to commons then if its applied to all. Sure go right ahead with setting up the test version. Maxforce99 (talk) 15:05, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I finished the required work to adapt the wiki to both themes. We'll talk again once you'll have access to the test version. Thanks! --CuBaN VeRcEttI (Contact) 12:36, 24 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you Maxforce99 (talk) 12:19, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Opt-in release
Hello again! As we have announced in our new blog, the opt-in exploration is available to you now! You can basically take a look at the main areas of the wiki, but as I explained the main things you should keep into account are the frontpage, the tables and their style, and other templates like infoboxes and navboxes. All of this, always thinking about the option of switching between the light and dark theme and all the content should be readable and adapted to both at the same time. In addition, all the wikis have to create a combination of colors for the light and dark theme, using the ThemeDesigner tool, and also re-upload the logo and favicon, and optionally the background (but it will work differently as header background, so it’s up to you what we’ll do with it on your wiki).

I already adapted the content and code to be compatible with FandomDesktop (the new skin), and also created the 2 themes and re-uploaded the assets. You can perfectly make any change to the ThemeDesigner and/or the Mediawiki pages, but I really encourage you to talk with me first. I’ve been adapting it, and I put some concrete stuff (colors in the ThemeDesigner, code in the MW pages and in one page but not another) for concrete reasons (basically to have all compatible with both themes), so to be more practical I think it’s better if we discuss about any proposal/issue/preference you could find/want before make changes. Thanks for everything! --CuBaN VeRcEttI (Contact) 21:04, 1 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi again, yes I've noticed the options and I've been poking around to see how its effecting the pages and current coding on the pages. I'm not too sure how to fix the colour Continent template, on hydra this was small square boxes, now its rectangles and stretched. Also on some pages the stat tables look normal whereas on others it is squished.


 * I've also noticed there isn't a transparency option (that I could see), I would like this for the main page as I would like to retain that design aspect (transparency on the main section so some background can be seen through). Also is it possible to have 2 different bg pics (1 for light and 1 for dark mode)? There's likely to be more as we further continue to poke around on this. Thank you Maxforce99 (talk) 22:04, 1 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I've been checking for a "Continent" template and I only found Template:Continent Color Reference. I assume the color cell is adapted to the length of the attached text. Actually, if you change from the standard width to the full width, you'll notice their sizes are changing. If you don't like the current look, I assume you'll have to change the text size or excluding the color boxes sizes from the text sizes. In Hydradark you see the square boxes becuase it has a fixed full width. You could also try adding more cellpadding or cellspacing to avoid the squish effect.


 * You're able to customize the content area of the wiki as desired, with the caveat of readability. You just have to include the background image and the transparency option in a workable CSS page. I recommend you to copy the options you have in Hydra.css to Fandomdesktop.css (and not in Common.css because it works for all the skins). I know you can define different code for each theme (using the .theme-fandomdesktop-light and .theme-fandomdesktop-dark classes), but I didn't try setting different backgrounds using these classes. Anyway, you also have to keep in mind the custom background are also behind the navigation menu, and they could easily affect its readability. On the contrary, if you add a background image using the Theme Designer, it will work "only" as a header background but adapted to be the nav menu readable. --CuBaN VeRcEttI (Contact) 10:20, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, I will try to play around with the CSS, I'm not an expert at CSS so it's going to take me time to do it (I figure things out using trial and error). Yes I was referring to the Template:Continent Color Reference and I will be trying to get it back to the way it looks on hydra. Will also try to figure out how to get the text font/size/style back to what was in hydra, I dislike that the links look to be in bold atm.
 * I've been poking around and noticed on the admin dashboard there is a button to go to CSS. When I click there, it takes me to wikia.css, I am puzzled as to why that exists and its also empty. I'm wondering if I need to put anything on that css page? Also I've been researching, this wiki uses MediaWiki:Sidebar (from gamepedia) for its nav which I assume is what the header drop downs are pulling from. I've been reading that fandom uses MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation as its header dropdowns, is it recommended to create the fandom one and move the MediaWiki:Sidebar to it? or is it ok to continue to use the MediaWiki:Sidebar? Maxforce99 (talk) 20:42, 6 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Edit: Additional info: EWWWW search this wiki did not bring up the page MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation Maxforce99 (talk) 21:26, 6 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Nice. As I said before, please keep in mind that your wiki have to be compatible with both themes at the same time. Try to no add concrete customizations for one theme without checking the other one.


 * Regarding the Admin Dashboard, this interface and link is imported from what we used on the Fandom wikis. I recommend you to ignore it. The CSS page for the UCX skin is MediaWiki:Fandomdesktop.css.


 * Regarding the nav, you're right. Gamepedia wikis use MediaWiki:Sidebar and Fandom wikis use MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation. It's the same navigation menu but with the old skins they were shown and worked differently. With the UCX skin, the old Gamepedia sidebar now turns into the same wiki navigation menu the Fandom wikis used (but working slightly different with the UCX skin). AFAIK, you still have to use MW:Sidebar to update your menu, because you're using a Gamepedia wiki. --CuBaN VeRcEttI (Contact) 08:52, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Design changes
Hi! Some days ago I saw you added some stuff to the mediawiki:fandomdesktop.css page. Nevertheless, like I said not all the previous code was useful or compatible for this new skin, so I recommended you to talk with us about it. Yesterday my colleague user:Game widow took a look to it and remove/fixed part of it, keeping only the code that is effectively working with the UCX. I hope the current status of the wiki is good for you, and like I suggested feel free to mark the wiki as ready when you want. Thanks! CuBaN VeRcEttI (Contact) 09:04, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, that was a direct copy from MediaWiki:Hydra.css into mediawiki:fandomdesktop.css page. As I've said I'm not too good with CSS, so did not know which parts on the Hydra.css was no longer applicable to fandomdesktop.css. I've been reading the ucx channel in discord to try and figure out which parts aren't being used anymore on ucx and whats replacing it. There will be more changes as I'm not happy with its looks and I'm trying to figure out how to make it better. Maxforce99 (talk) 18:48, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I have a question, what links will be kept in regards to gamepedia section? ATM we have the following links under gamepedia:

Does fandom have equivalent links / standard links that every fandom wiki should have? Maxforce99 (talk) 21:29, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * https://gamepedia.zendesk.com/hc/en-us
 * https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Bad_advertisements
 * https://help.fandom.com/wiki/Gamepedia_Help_Wiki
 * https://help.fandom.com/wiki/How_to_contact_Gamepedia


 * Another question, can the explore drop down be changed in the header? I don't see a corresponding code in either MediaWiki:Sidebar and MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation for it? Maxforce99 (talk) 22:20, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi Max! There's no problem about the code in FD.css. Like I said, my colleague Game widow took a look and removed/changed what she found wasn't useful/necessary/compatible. Regarding the nav menu, you can directly remove all the Gamepedia section you mentioned. We'll probably remove it for all the Gamepedia wikis in the near future, so you're free to adapt the menu without it. Regarding the Explore section, unfortunately you can't change it or remove it. It's a default section for all the wikis, included by default and not as part of the individual menu you can set for your wiki (in other words, it's not included in the mediawiki page but will be always shown. CuBaN VeRcEttI (Contact) 12:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Ahh thats unfortunate, I wanted to move some of it into that explore section as I've noticed that its different compared to the native fandom wiki's (there explore section has more in it. Im guessing that its cause of gamepedia not have the corresponding features that fandom wiki's have?). I guess I'll have to find another spot to put those parts. At the moment I'm using my sandbox to arrange what I'ld like in the header drops as, if I change it now in the mediawiki:sidebar it'll mess up the non-opt in current gamepedia live wiki. My sandbox is pretty much where I'm keeping notes of what I'ld change and for trying out things without breaking it too much. Maxforce99 (talk) 12:58, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Oh, that makes sense. And yeah, the Explore section is always by default for all, but obviously the Gamepedia wiki have slight differences. I don't know if in the near future all the wikis will have exactly the same section, but as far the Gamepedia wikis are not exactly like the Fandom ones, I assume the section won't be equal. Anyway, I think you've taken a good decision with this. CuBaN VeRcEttI (Contact) 09:35, 21 June 2021 (UTC)